Blazing Deserts introduces three new grenades which are all good. Duelists: Damage perk stackingHigh AID Duelists like Mace can make use of HH. New Fearsome helps get that ball rolling and continue to feed into itself. Being smart about your targeting and injury delivery will help you get more value out of Executioner. Berserk also burns through your FAT faster. Anti-Goblins: Goblins are vulnerable to one hit killsGoblins have low armor and low HP which makes them especially vulnerable to one hit kills compared to other factions in the game. No fat average ho - fat neutral bf. Similar deal against Unholds and Lindwurms. What are the deciding factors stat wise for you to make a good brother battle forged or nimble? You can attack three times per turn or twice with some room to move around. Mind also multiplies the Banner buff, and the Fearsome penalty counts that too, so it benefits you to have the Banner out often/always. You can also do Throwing + Polearm but thats actually weaker than just pure Throwing without offering any real range advantage like Bow/Crossbow do. Fighting SpearFighting Spear is a weak option for Duelist given the low damage. Although you can use Frenzy without Berserk, Berserk makes it a lot stronger, and is generally the better of the two anyway, so youve probably already got it. Archers & Throwers Base ammunition should sufficeSome players favor Bags on archers. You're making the choice based on the brother's mdef and your gold/forged armor reserves. Pathfinder helps Polearms maintain this advantage in all battles. Hits or misses aside, more attacks means more chances to hit. Polearms: Mobility is one of their main advantagesSince Polearm Mastery lowers the AP cost of Polearms to 5 they are able to move 2 tiles per turn, even change elevation and still attack. If you dont have any clear shots then move to a better position rather than shoot at half accuracy. Famed shields are entirely at risk of being shattered (and they cannot be repaired if they are unless you have the Blacksmith in your Retinue). Many fall in the face of chaos; but not this one, not today.. You can use FW if you want some extra safety insurance for your Fencer, but using it to setup Lunges is impractical. This removes 9Ls old weakness to Cleaver enemies. In normal battles, Ambusher Poison isnt usually a big problem, but the length of the City fight and the number of attackers means you will get worn down, which means you will start getting poisoned at some point. Crossbow is the same except every other turn you will have to only attack once and spend the other AP reloading. As with Adrenaline, you can also lessen/negate status effects with good timing (see Use Cases). Unlock two extra bag slots. Further, Tanks can very easily get over the 50 MDF soft cap (see Game Mechanics if you dont know what that means). Having a higher innate headshot chance helps you prime more stacks for guaranteed headshots and continue to feed into itself throughout the battle. Accuracy perks can help you more consistently land your hits to both turn Frenzy online and keep it going after. And at the very least you want 80 free fat. Counter high defense enemiesAncient Legion with Tower Shield using Shield Wall will have 50 defense + more if they are lined up together using it. Student is a perk which is a little boring on the surface, but extremely handy. Please refer to the mechanics if you skipped them.. Taunt offers control and utility for your teamTaunt can be a good perk to have on your tanks if you want the additional control option, even if it isnt something you are always using. Sure, let's walk through the correct answer (for front liners). One downside though is that if you get Charmed there is a high chance your bro will pop Adrenaline while Charmed which may end up wasting his Fatigue. If your bro is missing his attacks then Reach is not helping you. This is a unique case for a damage focused build to also be able to main a shield. 5 defense for a perk point is still valuable just because defense is so strong, but you may want to compare this to other defensive perks like Dodge/Reach which can beat 5 defense, or even Gifted which is only 3 defense but gives other stats as well. See the Game Mechanics section if you are unclear on this. QH is great here. Without Indom, Wurms are very capable of killing even good bros in just a few hits. If you are wondering about Brute, it is only ever so slightly more useful on Flail Duelists than on other Duelists, so Brute alone shouldnt necessarily make you think you should use Flail. They compliment each other, but they are not a package deal. Every section has been modified slightly, wordings changed, things added or removed, etc. 100 armor Young will need to hit the wall 5+ times before they reach the Fearsome window. 3H FlailAfter the BD buff, 3H finds itself in an interesting place. The first Japanese airplane was shot down using the Navy's new proximity-fused five-inch projectile, and the Vought F4U Corsair flew its first combat missions on Guadalcanal. 5 MDF for a perk slot is not super compelling by itself (certainly not bad), compare that to Dodge or Gifted for example, but there is more going on here. Schrats also deal a large amount of Ignore% damage and they have CS, so without Indom there is a very high chance you will be getting a lot of injuries here. However, there is a specific use case for CS here and that is as an anti-Chosen mechanism. However, the prohibitive cost of Indom may entice you to seek alternatives. Again, there are many ways to be successful in Battle Brothers. At the eleventh character level, you gain an additional perk point and this perk becomes inert. Misconception Using Dodge means I dont have to level defenseNo. For example, a super tank that never cares about attacking anyway doesnt need a Mastery. They can be combined for additional protection against injuries and AID. It depends really on your build and what you want for your bro. So 60 base HP gets +15 and 63 base HP also gets +15 Higher maximum HP makes you more resistant to injuries Updates along with maximum HP (also influenced by injuries and traits like Fat or Old). Injuries are not just really annoying, but some enemies have Executioner to further punish your injuries. Anti-GeistGeist screams will generate 4 morale checks against all of your brothers in 3 range. You really cannot ignore it. There have been minor edits/changes overall throughout the guide. QH is also popular on the Banner, so you can pack a Warscythe and do some AoE sweeps for Fearsome value, and then swap back to the Banner all in the same turn. Smart positioning can only get you so far for your tank. For the bulk of your front liners you are choosing between two builds with very similar stat requirements (100 HP after colossus, 105+ fatigue, 45+ resolve). Escaping dangerAny unit that you think might be getting themselves into danger and you want an escape ability can make use of FW. You would be better off just doing two regular slashes than a FW into Lunge. Doing this does prevent the Bannerman from moving that turn however. You dont want to be shooting at half accuracy. Shielded Fighting Spear will only proc on very light Young. This means your Spearwall is active all through turn 2 and 3 even if you get breached (assuming Mastery). The difference in power between a level 6 character without Nimble and a level 7 (when it can first be picked) character is huge. No other perks are in play unless mentioned. You can get a lot of value at base INI and spending level ups on INI doesnt actually help Dodge that much. Team support, good positioning and tactics can also go a long way to limit or even prevent Chosen from attacking. All rights reserved. This makes him a prime target for Flies, so Resilient can be a good pick for your Goblin Trophy bro if he is critical to your Goblin strategy. In June 1944 Japanese and U.S. navies fought the decisive battle of the Philippine Sea. Some barbarians having a friendly wrestle in preparation for the rigours of an impending pillaging expedition. A 60 Resolve bro in this same scenario has a 56% chance of getting Charmed. Finally, Backstabber is really easy to get value out of as you are naturally going to be getting surround bonuses every battle anyway. This gives you an extra turn of Spearwall guaranteed compared to not having Adrenaline. Misconception HP is unnecessary for heavy armored characters with ForgeNo. Gash goes to 50% reduced injury threshold (from 33%). This is especially troublesome for your Goblin Trophy user as he is immune to Vines/Nets but not the Flies, so if you wanted him to go hunt the Shamans he is going to want Resilient or else get ruined by Flies. Heavy Chosen (190 hat, 230 body): No Perks: 7.05 shots to kill on average. Winged Mace Duelist: 5.64 hits on average. Warriors have enough armor that most weapons will have a Fearsome window against them. Relentless and wait synergyAs Resilient works well with the wait command, it can combo nicely with Relentless so that you can wait every turn while maintaining high initiative. HH can be irrelevant to detrimental against armored targets, but Warbows generally dont want to be shooting armored targets anyway, so this may not concern you much. Because light armor stinks without Nimble, Nimble has one of the highest returns on perk point investment. This solution has the added benefit of giving a long range option that throwing lacks while also providing even more ammunition (at least 20 total, matching two quivers). This is a nimble tank build for beginners who is having hard time finding a tank material but desperately needs tank/banner tank who will last till late game. For example, you start the turn with the Banner out, QH to Hook/Whip/Net, do the thing (4 or 5 AP), and then use the remaining 4 or 5 AP to bring the Banner back out allowing you to maintain the Banner buff that you want to have while also having the ability to use other weapons/items. Heavy archers are more resistant to focus fire. You should be solidly in control or outright winning by the time your Dodge value is waning. Backstabber is usually only worth +5 and sometimes +10 or better. Nimble can almost double a bros staying powerThe following table shows the simulated mean hits for a mix of thirty five enemies to kill a character with various HP and common 105/95 (head/body) armor (no attachment), with and without Nimble.HPDefaultNimbleDiff.Diff%80 HP3.436.052.6276%100 HP3.826.933.1181%120 HP4.187.793.6186%. Reach weapons and ranged weapons benefit more from this as they have a little better freedom on available targets. You want to avoid/prevent these situations in the first place. Theyve got curved swords Curved. Does not stack, but another kill will reset the timer. Understanding Warrior control is the biggest step to safely skipping on FW. While heavy armor may offer a better chance of surviving dire situations, Nimble demands very little to shine, which may allow you to grab other stats if you prefer. Mortars do pretty low damage, so while you could just eat the Mortar, you would like to avoid the morale check and the Shellshocked status if you can. Since Puncture cannot hit the head, these injuries are even more likely. For example, lets say you want to get your Resolve up and you want to put at least three levels into it. For example, Savants hate being surrounded, so if the only way to engage your Taunt user is to get surrounded then Taunt will be ignored. Ive beaten most of them without Recover but it is a good skill to have in these fights. How useful is having more MSK here?if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'gamerofpassion_com-large-mobile-banner-2','ezslot_7',113,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-gamerofpassion_com-large-mobile-banner-2-0'); Gaining SKL is significantly more impactful to damage potential when your hit chances are poor. DiscussionThrowing Mastery is a ludicrous damage boost for Throwing, which when combined with Duelist, which also works with Throwing, allows for very high damage. Therefore, having higher HP makes a unit more resistant to getting injured. Two-Handers: CS value depends on weapon choiceFor the most part CS is wasted on two-handers unless you are trying to Injure Unholds, Orc Warriors, Chosen, or Nimble enemies. You can further support this with things like the Direwolf attachment and/or Cursed Crystal Skull. Roman is the attacker and he is adjacent to the blue hat Raider along with 2 of my other bros with Swords. Generally speaking this should be avoided, but with some clever positioning and the right build/bro you can deal enormous damage with this playstyle. This caps at 100 RES. Rotation can provide other benefitsOffensively, Rotation allows you to manipulate your formation once everyone gets locked down to either focus fire dangerous enemies or line up AoE attacks, or just better position yourself. doesnt help HH much as by definition you must have hit something to have gained a HH stack, meaning you wont have any FA stacks to support the next strike. Frenzy is good in these fights. Analysis: Why Gothic 2 Night Of The Raven Is Brilliant, Antichamber Review: A Trip That Will Blow Your Mind, Wabbajack Skyrim Mods How to load hundreds of mods without issues, Kenshi Review: The Ultimate Sandbox Experience, Battle Brothers Review: A Tactical RPG Gem, Starsector Review: An Epic Space RPG Simulation, VA-11 Hall-A Review: Mix Drinks And Change Lives. By high I mean 70+ before LW is what I would recommend and it is very hard to get there without Mind. If you need a reminder on how injury mechanics work then go back to the CS section. They must stay vigilant against enemies who can disrupt or ignore the formation and reach the back line, like Necrosavants or Orc Warriors. Utility Throwers Hes got some tricks up his sleeveThere are a number of consumable items that can provide valuable impact in battle. The nerf to 5AP cost also made Indom harder to use on 2Handers, either requiring you to skip on you attacks or Berserk into it. So you are saying that I dont need RDF?Yes, thats exactly what Im saying. Goblins are very hard to out-speed. They have it too by the way. Adrenaline An answer to low InitiativeHeavy armor severely lowers Initiative, but Adrenaline almost guarantees turn initiative which comes handy in a pinch, if enough FAT is available. Even 80+ skill bros can find situations where FA can be helpful. 2Handers like Mace and Hammer are even capable of one shotting enemies like Footman and Ancient Dead once Frenzy is online. If you are Taunting then you are giving up on one or both of these skills. Damage Dealers: Berserk greatly increases damage dealingBerserk allows 2Handers to attack twice per turn instead of once, potentially doubling your damage output. This is just about see what you can get a bro to with both nimble and BF. If you look at a lot of old guides, some will tell you that you only need 60 HP on your Forge units. Noble Sergeants do this (though not in the smartest way). Bleeds can be inflicted not only by Cleavers but also by Whips, Jagged Pikes and Irrlicht (Kraken) attacks. + Offers a ton of tactical flexibility+ Can be used offensively and defensively+ Indirectly grants +4 AP per turn Carrying extra items to QH to costs FAT Doesnt work with shields, If a shield is involved in the swap whether to your hands or off of your hands then QH will not work A buff bubble will appear on the left of the screen when your QH is still available. You dont need to use it on anybody else. Super tanks want to be engaging as many enemies as possible to help ease pressure on teammates. Furthermore, Raiders and Direwolves have Executioner so running around with injuries early on makes them more dangerous to your already fragile bros. Nimble: increased efficiencyColossus is fantastic with Nimble. Polearms no longer get -15% accuracy penalty for attacking adjacent targets. Moving around in a swamp without Pathfinder is a real pain. Even if they got enough fat, this bros are very slow and always the last who can do stuff. Pathfinder is a FAT perk as well as a mobility perk. The majority of your Dodge value is going to depend on your base INI and how fast your build generates FAT. If you like using a perk that I say is weak then by all means continue using it, and you dont have to use perks that I say are strong. As a reminder from the CS section, Alps, Schrats, Ifrits, Kraken, Dogs, Undead, Lindwurms, and Goblins are all targets that are either immune to injury or will die in two hits anyway (Goblins) regardless of Executioner (except Overseer). Nimble: Indom is still amazingAlthough technically Nimble tends to benefit less from Indom than Forge does (relatively speaking), it is still incredibly strong, and Nimble-Indom can beat Forge-Indom in some matchups. Skills build up 25% less Fatigue. Your veterans should be able to keep your fresh blood safe in battle so the short term loss of missing a perk isnt as big a deal. This is a guide for Battle brothers beginners who are struggling to build a brother and want a build that lets you get away with some mistakes.This video exp. You can still use Indom on 2Handers, but not freely as in the past. An Orc Duelist needs Mastery to not be out of FAT in two or three turns. It isnt just useful against Goblins. The following enemies have Brow: Ancient Dead (all except Savants), Unholds, Schrats, Kraken, Tentacles, Ijirok, Ifrits, Bannerman, Sergeant, Zweihander, Swordmaster, Master Archer, Wardogs, Nomad Blade Dancer Stalker, and Executioner. People say that since you slowly gain stats in Veteran levels that Gifted must be bad, but if thats the argument then all of the other perks Ive compared Gifted to must also be bad right? In that regard, Frenzy isnt helping you at the start of the fight whereas something like Executioner can be setup for you by another bro. You cant always just stand around and let the enemies walk into you. Since having a HH stack guarantees that you will hit the head on your next strike (if you hit), you can purposefully alter your targeting to get the best value out of the stack, and actively avoid attacking enemies who have large helmets still. Thus, shielded Hammers can consistently proc Fearsome on armored targets. ?Yeah I hear you. See Adrenaline section for details. + Doubles accuracy when shooting into cover (25% 50% of base hit chance) Making use of Bullseye means intentionally halving your accuracy Half accuracy is still not reliable enough to justify shooting into cover Shooting into cover means more missed shots than just not trying to use Bullseye in the first place, A target is in cover when standing behind another unit or obstacle (like a rock/tree) You can tell when a target is in cover when aiming at them if you see a red/orange shield icon appear on the object in front of the target The 50%/75% hit chance penalty is multiplicative Without Bullseye, shooting a covered target when you would normally have an 80% hit chance gets dropped to a 20% hit chance With bullseye in the same scenario, we would have a 40% hit chance The game technically rolls obstruction separately, and then if you pass the obstruction check it rolls your actual shot as per normal. A +5 in INI equates to +.75 defenses which is still worse than even just a regular +1 in MDF unless you have some other reason to want the INI . AP is the lifeblood of your turn, and Berserk lets you get 44% more turns in a loose sense. Executioner needing an injury to gain value might seem like a big problem, but it isnt really that hard to set this up. A -12 Fearsome penalty would bring us up to 39% and 25% which in absolute terms may seem small but in relativistic terms is a 44% increased success rate against Warriors and a 92% increased success rate against Chosen. Out of all of the MDF perks, Underdog is the one with the least strings attached. 2-Tile teach weapons: More options to targetSimilar to ranged weapons, reach weapons have some flexibility on who they are able to target. The two movement also lets you more easily get around your own bros when you are trying to find tiles you can attack from. This can be especially troublesome in tricky swamp or hill maps. 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